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No "Fun": Noun? Yes. Adjective? Well...

The journalism professor was not having much "fun" explaining things to her feature-writing students: "I know so fun is wrong but I can't tell them why," she wrote. "So happy is right, but so fun should have 'much' as the sandwich filling."

If you ask practically anybody under 35 whether "so fun" is acceptable English, you will probably be told "Duh," or today's equivalent of eye-rolling disbelief.

But if you ask usage authorities, you'll get differing opinions. And, as is so frequently the case, the answer on whether "so fun" is "correct" will depend on the publication, the audience, and the context.

The "fun" in "so fun" ("That ride looks so fun") is acting as an adjective, the way "big" is an adjective in "That ride looks so big." Traditionally, however, "fun" is only a noun. That's why adding the sandwich filler "much," an adjective, to render the expression as "so much fun" makes it seem proper.

For a long time, though, people have been saying "I had a fun time," using "fun" as an adjective. After all, as Garner's Modern American Usage points out, we have adjectives for nearly all of our other emotions: "exciting," "fearful," "gloomy," "sad." Even so, Garner's calls "fun" as an adjective a "casualism," and lists it only at Stage 3 of the Language-Change Index, meaning many educated people use it, but would be smart to avoid it in a college entrance essay.

The Oxford English Dictionary says "fun" began as a verb in English in 1685, possibly derived from a variant of a verb "to befool." It was followed 14 years later by the first use of "fun" as a noun, the OED says. Showing its British stiff upper lip, the OED does not even list an adjectival form of "fun" except as parts of other adjectives, as in "fun-loving."

Other authorities have a little more fun. A usage note in The American Heritage Dictionary (fifth edition) says that "fun" as an adjective "has become widespread and must be considered standard, though writers may want to avoid it in more formal contexts."

The dictionary used by both The New York Times and the Associated Press, Webster's New World College Dictionary (fourth edition), says "fun" as an adjective is "informal." But how that's applied differs between those institutions. The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage is in the OED's corner: "Though the commercials may someday win respectability for fun as an adjective (a fun vacation), the gushing sound argues for keeping the word a noun."

The Associated Press Stylebook is silent, though the "Ask the Editor" archive weighs in against "funner" as "slangy."

Nearly everyone, in fact, opposes "funner "and "funnest" as anything but kid-speak or deliberate irony. ("Funniest," of course, is okay, but it doesn't mean the same thing as what's intended by "funner "or" funnest.")

If you want to use "fun" as an adjective, consider your audience: Would the English teachers (or journalism professors) reading it leave scathing comments? If so, leave it out. Or would avoiding it make you sound like a drip? Then go ahead and have some fun.


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Merrill Perlman is adjunct assistant professor at the Columbia Graduate School of Journalism and president of Merrill Perlman Consulting, offering consulting and freelance editing services and training in journalism, grammar and usage. Among her clients are The New York Times, ProPublica and the Poynter Institute. She writes the "Language Corner" column and blog for Columbia Journalism Review. Merrill retired in June 2008 after 25 years at The New York Times, most recently as director of copy desks with responsibility for managing 150 copy editors. Click here to read more articles by Merrill Perlman.

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Wednesday June 27th 2012, 4:35 AM
Comment by: Len P. (Barcelona Spain)
Interesting topic:
I agree, I would avoid "so fun" in a formal context, such as school/college writing. I would, like many British-English speakers, say/write: "It was such fun", keeping "fun" as a noun, or "It was so much fun".
Still, "fun" is of course used as an adjective in many cases: "He's (a) fun (person) to be with"; "There are lots of fun things to do here"; "This looks fun", etc etc.
It would be fun (!) to know what modern corpora have to say in this matter.
Best wishes
Len Peterson
Barcelona
Wednesday June 27th 2012, 9:16 AM
Comment by: begum F.Top 10 Commenter
A fun addition I agree.
All VT columnist are smart in choosing fun topics and writing the concurrent history surrounding the topic. This skill made VT column writers unique to display fun knowledge.
I think we often use the phrase "huge fun" in our expression. "So Fun" is dangling just nearby and searching loop holes to poke its head thru.
Wednesday June 27th 2012, 10:08 AM
Comment by: Beverley M. (Macclesfield United Kingdom)
My son when younger used to write 'very fun', and I could never give him a satisfactory explanation as to why this wasn't correct. Looks like there probably isn't one!
Wednesday June 27th 2012, 5:43 PM
Comment by: Lee J. (Tucson, AZ)
Thank you for the article about the use of fun as an adjective. My skin crawls whenever I hear funnest and funner. My spell check agrees with you, also.
Thursday June 28th 2012, 5:39 PM
Comment by: morton
I don't disagree with most of the "concerns" about the use of funner or funnest but find it interesting that someone who really has a major problem with same has no problem with their skin "crawling"

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